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Alvin Greene and the voice of the people

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Or, Mr Smith goes to Washington

Well, I guess the gentlemen are in a pretty tall hurry to get me out of here. The way the evidence has piled up against me, I can’t say I blame them much. And I’m quite willing to go, sir, when they vote it that way – but before that happens I’ve got a few things I want to say to this body. I tried to say them once before, and I got stopped colder than a mackerel. Well, I’d like to get them said this time, sir. And as a matter of fact, I’m not going to leave this body until I do get them said.
-Jefferson Smith (James Stewart – read about the movie)

By now everyone knows the story of Alvin Greene winning the election in South Carolina. 

Now the democratic party wants him to step down 

The Democratic Party there has called for Greene to step down as the nominee after it was revealed that Greene is facing a pending felony charge for allegedly showing pornography to a college student. 

He’s an unemployed veteran, who has claimed in some media accounts that he paid for his $10,400 filing fee with money saved up from that job. Some — including Democratic Rep. Jim Clyburn, who has suggested that Greene may be a plant meant to wreak havoc on the race — are doubtful. 

Does it matter if: 

  1. he’s facing felony charges?
  2. he’s an unemployed veteran
  3. people voted for him because his was the first name on the ballot?
  4. people confused his name with Al Greene the singer?
  5. someone gave him the $10,400 filing fee?
  6. he has very little / no experience in politics
  7. he has no money for a campaign
  8. he lives at home with his parents
  9. won’t answer questions on his position on the country’s foreign policy
  10. he is “very busy”

Seems like the state Democratic Party wants to dismiss the “will of the people” that elected Alvin. 

People say that you need to be rich, have an elite education, and mount an expensive campaign to win an election.  Well, not so.  Alvin Greene had none of this – and he won.

This just goes to show you how much consideration or “due diligence” that people do before they vote.  Perhaps if his opponent, Vic Rawls, changed his fist name to “Lou”  – Rawls would have had a better chance of winning the election. 

One wonders, if the Electoral College was set up to ensure that these “mistakes” of the “voice of the people” are not propagated up to the level of the Vice President and President of the United States. 

The Electoral College ensures that the President of the United States is not directly determined by the individual voters.  Sort of the ultimate “safety net” against a sort of insanity by ordinary people – ala Alvin Greene.

Resources

Updated 6/18/2010 – The history and historical context of the Electoral College –
https://frrl.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/thehistoryoftheelectoralcollege.pdf

The story in brief

Alvin Greene says he doesn’t regret running for Senate despite Democrats’ request for his withdrawal from race
By Alex Pappas — The Daily Caller   06/14/10 at 3:00 PM

 

During two short phone interviews with The Daily Caller, the surprise Democratic nominee for the U.S. Senate in South Carolina — who has been asked to withdraw from the race by the state Democratic Party — said he’s still glad he made a run for the seat, despite all the negative attention directed at him. 

Greene has been overwhelmed by media coverage since he won the nomination to run against Republican Sen. Jim DeMint. Greene, who is black, didn’t campaign or spend any money on the race. He defeated former state legislator Vic Rawls, who is white. 

He’s set to face DeMint in November. 

The Democratic Party there has called for Greene to step down as the nominee after it was revealed that Greene is facing a pending felony charge for allegedly showing pornography to a college student. 

He’s an unemployed veteran, who has claimed in some media accounts that he paid for his $10,400 filing fee with money saved up from that job. Some — including Democratic Rep. Jim Clyburn, who has suggested that Greene may be a plant meant to wreak havoc on the race — are doubtful. 

Asked by The Daily Caller where the money came from, Greene hung up. When called back, Greene briefly listed several issues he said he feels strongly for, like “getting South Carolina back to work.” He did not elaborate, when pressed. 

The Daily Caller also attempted to quiz him on several other questions — like how he feels on the country’s foreign policy with North Korea and Iran — but Greene chose not to answer. 

“I’m very busy right now, I have to go,” he said.

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Written by frrl

June 16, 2010 at 1:13 pm

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  1. Election Information
    If the Parliament itself resolves that it should be dissolved, with at least two-thirds of the Members (ie. 86 Members) voting in favour, the Presiding Officer proposes a date for an extraordinary general election and the Parliament is dissolved by the monarch by royal proclamation. In the current Parliament, elected in 2007, this can only happen if supported by the Scottish National Party as it has more than one-third of the Members (47 out of 129 Members equals 36.4%) and can therefore block a dissolution resolution unless 4 of its Members were to join with all opposition members to pass a dissolution resolution.

    However, it does not necessarily require a two-thirds majority to precipitate an extraordinary general election, because under the Scotland Act Parliament is also dissolved if it fails to nominate one of its members to be First Minister within certain time limits, irrespective of whether at the beginning or in the middle of a four year term.

    Scottish Election

    June 18, 2010 at 2:54 pm

  2. This is the most insane story in politics in a looong time. They’ve got And they’ve got Alvin Greene campaign shirts on ebay now too, for those interested.

    the pistol

    June 18, 2010 at 4:43 am

  3. RE: The Electoral College

    The current system does not provide some kind of check on the “mobs.” There have been 22,000 electoral votes cast since presidential elections became competitive (in 1796), and only 10 have been cast for someone other than the candidate nominated by the elector’s own political party. The electors are dedicated party activists of the winning party who meet briefly in mid-December to cast their totally predictable votes in accordance with their pre-announced pledges.

    mvymvy

    June 17, 2010 at 5:17 pm

    • I updated the posting to include a link to the history of the electoral college from a .gov site. This paper gives some interesting insight into the historial origins and context of this body.

      This is interesting –
      “Finally, a so-called “Committee of Eleven” in the Constitutional
      Convention proposed an indirect election of the president through a College
      of Electors.
      The function of the College of Electors in choosing the president can
      be likened to that in the Roman Catholic Church of the College of Cardinals
      selecting the Pope. The original idea was for the most knowledgeable and
      informed individuals from each State to select the president based solely on
      merit and without regard to State of origin or political party.”

      I am not saying that the college would go against the vote of the people – but, consider this –

      “The original idea was for the most knowledgeable and
      informed individuals from each State to select the president based solely on
      merit…”

      So that would be a mitigation against an “Alvin Greene” as president scenario

      frrl

      June 18, 2010 at 2:12 pm


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