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Product Review:Lights of America LED Light Bulb

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Or, are you ready to replace your incandescent light bulbs with energy saving LED technology?

ledlightbulb_sideGreat new technology or wasted money?

Is this posting from the “We wasted our money on this – so you don’t have to” or the “New Technology you should know about department”?  You decide.

About a year ago LED light bulbs were priced at about $35 and above.  You can look at the C.Crane VIVID light bulb here – http://www.ccrane.com/lights/led-light-bulbs/cc-vivid-led-light-bulb.aspx.  These are priced at $19.95 at the time of this writing.  And there are other versions here – http://www.ccrane.com/lights/led-light-bulbs/cc-vivid/

Your mileage may vary, but for me, its all about the quality of the light – I don’t care how much it cost (within reason) I want good quality light. My house is nearly exclusively General Electric Reveal bulbs ( http://www.gelighting.com/na/home_lighting/products/reveal_main.htm ) and Halogen.  No substitutes, please.

Ac/costed at Sam’s Club

While walking down the aisles of Sam’s Club I was accosted by a package of LED light bulbs priced at $14 for a set of three.  That’s $5 each.  Now that’s a price drop.  What’s the real deal?

Taking a closer look at the package:

  1. The brand name is Lights of America
  2. 40 Watts equivalent light to incandescent
  3. Uses 1.5 Watts
  4. Standard Edison base
  5. Annual Energy Cost $0.16 based on specific use
  6. 30,000 hrs estimated life

Sounds good.  Lets take a look at the fine print

  1. 40 Watts but the packages does not quote Lumens
  2. Annual energy cost is based on 3 hrs per day use.  That seems low.
  3. Does not work with a dimmer.
  4. Cold weather – OK

At about $5 each in a package of three – $14 for the set, how could ( famous last words) I lose?

Putting the LED Light bulb to the test

Author bias warning: GE Reveal Light Bulbs

What Makes GE Reveal® Bulbs Different?
GE Reveal bulbs make colors “pop” in a way they don’t with standard incandescent bulbs.

Why? The rare earth element neodymium that’s in the glass. (It’s what gives these bulbs their distinctive blue color when unlit.) When these bulbs are lit, the neodymium provides a pure, clean light by filtering out much of the dulling yellow cast common from ordinary light bulbs.

ledlightbulb_comparewithgerevealI got a couple of identical lamps and put a 40 watt GE Reveal light bulb in one and the 40 watt light-equivalent LED bulb in the other.  I set them on the table to take a look, side-by-side. 

A picture is worth a thousands words.  Take a look.  See if you can guess which lamp has the LED light bulb.  Here are some more words, if a thousand is not enough:

  1. The LED bulb is not frosted so the light is not diffused.  The light is directional – up.
  2. Since the light is not diffused, you will find a dark ring around around the bottom of the shade. This is caused by the directed light upward and there is very little light that shines below the base.
  3. Based on my subjective observation – take a look for yourself – this LED bulb, claimed to be 40 Watt incandescent light equivalent on the package, falls short on light output.  Again, the package does not cite a Lumen rating
  4. Finally, its the quality of the light.  No way I would use these LED light bulbs in a lamp.

To be fair, the packaging, which says this is 40 watt incandescent light equivalent, also says it is best for accent lighting.  The LED bulb is directed light so maybe this is the best use.

I tried the Lights of America LED bulb in a light illuminating books in a book case and compared this with an incandescent 40 watt GE Reveal bulb.  Again, the lack of light output and the color of the light that is at issue.

What would you use these for?

ledlightbulb_insideThe package promotes these bulbs for accent lighting.  Having messed with these LED Bulbs in a number of different living room lamps, desk lamps, bookshelf lighting, etc.  I can say that accent lighting is what they would be best at – if you can tolerate the quality of the light.

A positive comment about the light is that it is made up of a total of 20 individual LED’s arranged in 3 tiered layers.  In a crystal glass bulb this has the affect of many points of light that looks three dimensional.  This affect is much different than a filament in an incandescent light.

The bulb may look OK a chandelier of in outdoor coach lights.  At $5 each it would be cost prohibitive for a chandelier.  For outdoor coach lighting, maybe this LED light bulb would be OK.

Doing the math

The claimed benefit of these LED light bulbs is that is saves money.  For example, the claimed life of the Lights of America LED bulb is 30,000 hrs.  The claimed life of the GE Reveal incandescent bulb is 1,000 hrs. 

How many years is 30,000 hrs?  If you use a light 8 hrs a day that is (8×365=) 2,920 hrs per year.  At that rate of use, 30,000 hrs is (20,000/2,920=) 10 years.

Cost of equipment

One would have to purchase 30 GE Reveal bulbs to match the life of the single Lights of America LED light bulb.

GE Reveal light bulbs are about $6 for a package of 4.  So to match the one LED bulb in life that is 8 packages of GE bulbs ( 8x$6=) $48.  Allocated over 10 years that is $4.80 per year.

Allocating the cost of the single Lights of America LED bulb over 10 years that is about $0.50 per year.

For GE Reveal – $4.80 per year;  Lights of America LED – $0.50 per year

Energy savings

The incandescent 40 watt bulbs running 30,000 hrs will use 1,200 Kilowatts.  At an energy rate of $0.10 per KW-hr the total energy cost is $120.  So that is $12 in energy each year.

The Lights of America bulb uses 1.5 Watts.  That is (1.5/40=) 3.75% of the cost of the incandescent bulb.  The energy cost is (3.75% of $12=) $0.45 each year.

Putting this all together

Lights of America 40 watt equivalent LED bulb
$0.50 in equipment cost and $0.45 in energy cost per year = $0.95 cost per year to use.

The GE Reveal 40 watt incandescent light bulb
$4.80 in equipment cost and $12 in energy cost per year = $16.80 cost per year to use.

The bottom line

The general case of just about any product selection / decision process comes down to the list of criteria and the weighting (importance) of each of the criteria against the products.

For me, as for many other people, the most important issue is the quality of the light. Would you pay a $16 per year price premium to get quality light in a specific use?  The answer for me is, yes!  Until GE can come out with a CFL or LED Reveal light bulb which is identical in light quality, output, and diffusion to the current incandescent bulb I will pay the premium of $16 per year per bulb and and enjoy great light.

Resources:

Real Time Pricing and Electricity Market

The ComEd Residential Real-Time Pricing Program
Wealth Transfers from Implementing Real-Time Retail Electricity Pricing

http://www.lightsofamerica.com/

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Written by frrl

February 2, 2009 at 5:21 pm

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  1. LED lights that I bought at Costco is a waste of money, they don’t even last 6 months, its a scam from the company that builds this lights

    Jorge

    July 3, 2013 at 2:18 am

  2. Led’s are in differend models and collors.
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    Kristof

    May 29, 2012 at 9:39 pm

  3. I just pulled another Lights of America 2002ledr30 – 65k 3.5w bulb out of service. I had put this in the stairwell of my dad’s house, and it became dangerous. Super dim bulb compared to a cheesy CFL down at the bottom of the stairs. Costco sent me a letter maybe a year ago offering to buy all of my LIghts of America LED bulbs back after Costco determined that they did not meet the quality requirements of the Costco corporation. So yay costco, boo on lights of america. I wonder if they still exist. If so, they lied about all kinds of specs, the lumen rating is off by a factor of 10, power consumption is a lie, the LED’s are overdriven so much that they tend to burn out quick. Horrible prodcuts, quality control etc.

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    happy

    November 6, 2011 at 5:44 pm

  4. similar story as most of the comments, I got 4 x 3-pack of the 1.5w not even a year ago and over 1/2 of them are dead. Do not buy LOA I am going to replace with GE brand.

    pinback

    September 19, 2011 at 5:21 am

  5. Welcome to the led lighting revolution! Lights of was ZHONGSHAN EPISTAR electric lighting manufacturing CO ltd. is located in GUZHEN town, ZHONGSHNA city, Guangdong province, china, which is specializing in the research and development, production and sales LED lamps china Lighting offers innovative and high quality lighting solutions to support at the same time with high quality lighting products at an affordable price and constantly introducing innovative products our customers’ diverse business needs and continued success. Focusing on LED and other energy efficient lighting technologies, American Lighting has taken the “green” approach to its ongoing product development.
    At present, our main LED lamps are LED tube lights, LED digital tube screen, LED point light sources, LED marquees with (point light sources Marquee), LED high power(LED wall wash lights, spotlights Light Cup, underwater lights, LED buried), LED low-power cup, LED ball lamps, LED Christmas lights (the stars lights, net lights, curtain lights, waterfall lights), LED bar screen, LED rainbow tubes, LED Indoor and outdoor electronic displays, LED floor tiles, LED Smallpox embedded lights, LED fiber-optic and so on.
    Our conception is strive for survival, development and efficiency on the basis of the quality of the products and credibility, we sincerely hope that the new and regular customers come our company to guide us. At the same time, welcome the major customers, engineering companies to join in us. We would like to work with you in hand and to create the win together!

    hung ho

    August 9, 2011 at 3:31 am

  6. So far five (5) of my eight (8) lamps have pooped out in less than a year. They very seldom get turned on so I would assume in the year they were in they lasted for about 150 burning hours.

    As an electrical engineer and code instructor, I purchase these things when they become available. All I can report to my clients and students “DO NOT PURCHASE ANYTHING FROM LIGHTS OF AMERICA”.

    My experience is they are junk and never should have been put on the market.

    Meg Girard

    June 11, 2011 at 5:49 am

  7. Like any technology, it takes time and consumer use/feedback before improvements are made. It’s over two years since this post was published and there are now some fantastic diffused LED bulbs on the market that are performing better in light quality as well as energy consumption.

    It’s great to see a consumer real-world application for LED lights comparison. We’ve uploaded a comparison calculator to make it easy to compare different types of lights… http://www.ledecolighting.com.au/comparison-calculator.html

    Hope it’s useful.

    James

    May 10, 2011 at 3:45 am

  8. Now adays, the HIGHT POWER LED bulbs are more popular than the LOW POWER. Higher brightness, higher efficiency. I am doing busienss with the LED lights in China, and selling the lights over the world. Quality first, product tells it!

    Dylan

    February 18, 2011 at 4:51 am

    • How about posting the efficacy, wattage, median lifetime, and suggested retail price? Otherwise, you’ll sound like just another person hyping an inferior product.

      Mark W

      February 20, 2011 at 11:22 pm

  9. We have 4 of the 3.5 watt and 3 of the 5 watt LOA LED floods in our kitchen and while not the best of light, I wouldn’t say it’s horrendous. We have a sun tunnel in our kitchen and the light from the LOA bulbs is about equal to the daylight coming through the sun tunnel. Daylight is not something that we are used to having come out of a light bulb and a warm white would probably be preferable, but for 7 bulbs to use a total of 29 watts is pretty cool. I’m looking forward to LED light bulb quality going up and price coming down. LEDs throughout our home will make the 3 kW PV solar system on our roof look like a major power plant.

    Luciana

    January 10, 2011 at 1:11 pm

    • Hi Lucianna, I am curious about two things: 1. How much did you pay for those bulbs? And 2. How long have they lasted so far? (I would be surprised if all of them last longer than a few months.)

      Mark W

      January 11, 2011 at 6:20 pm

  10. Over a period of 3 months, I bought 12 LIGHTS OF AMERICA Model 9265 Flourescent Flood Light fixtures. These were discounted through an energy saving promotion in conjunction with our local power company, Southern California Edison Company. Within a year, 10 of the 12 failed. I also bought another Lights of America Flourescent fixture, entirely different model. Within 6 months, it also failed. I ascertained the fixture electronics in all cases failed. The flourescent bulbs were fine. Input voltages (3 different locations)was nominal 120vac Contacted Lights of America, Walnut CA and tried to tell them of THEIR problem. No one seemed to give a SH**, want to hear it, or even admit to the problem. Their answer: Send them back under warranty. Now, why would I incur hefty shipping costs to return all these under warranty only to have junk replaced by more junk? From my own personal experience, I would suggest NOT buying anything with a Lights of America brand name on it until they get their act together, own up to their design problem and fix it.

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    Ms shine

    May 17, 2010 at 3:22 am

  12. Lights of America LED lights are garbage. Less than a year has passed since I purchased several different styles of their LED lights. I now have 100% failure of all the lights. Now I have to wast my time to see if I can find the receipt and pay the postage to send the lights back to “Lights of America” to get them replaced. I will never purchase this brand of light again. Regular inexpensive incandescant bulbs last longer than their LED lights!

    Joe

    March 22, 2010 at 4:22 am

    • Bought an LED outdoor motion sensor lighting system from Lights of America at Sam’s Club. One out of three of the bulbs failed at startup – 2025LEDE12-30K. Customer Service will not respond and as mentioned earlier, the bulb I have a problem with is not mentioned on their website anymore. Probably why customer service is ignoring me. DO NOT BUY FROM THIS COMPANY!

      Dave

      May 18, 2010 at 3:23 pm

    • I am so sorry to hear that the lights you got were bad! I am Dylan, and our company is supplying LED lights in Shenzhen, China. GOOD QUANLITY, REASONABLE PRICE. We provide 2 YEARS warranty time for our products under the normal operation. I you are still believing in LED lihgts, we would be happy to offer LED lights sample for you, You can have a test on our products, QUANLITY will tells! If you think they are OK for you, please introduce us to your friends, ~_~ Hehe. my Eamil is infogd@yahoo.cn

      Dylan

      February 21, 2011 at 4:03 am

  13. just bought the new lights of America led 3.5 watts at wal mart. the blue package
    the light is really bright for the wattage
    in a bathroom with vanity lights it is great.
    love the new leds

    shaheed crier

    March 12, 2010 at 2:38 am

    • I’d be interested in hearing about how reliable the new LED lighting is. Lights of America has a terrible reputation from a reliability standpoint for it’s LED lighting.

      ken

      March 12, 2010 at 4:31 pm

      • So far I have had 20 lights of america led lights in my house for between 6 months and 1 year. I had to bring 1 back to Sams because a few leds were out on it from the start. They replaced it and that is the only problem I’ve had. The new lights of america large led lights are out and the light is no longer directional. It uses only eleven watts and is brighter than a 60 watt incandescent 635 lumens. I’m outfitting all my canisters this way becase its so much better than its counterparts.However large led tehnology is brand new and untested.So far I’ve been running them 3 months and no problems.It puts out a very bright an vey white light the blue tint is gone.I think people will be impressed with thse as great incandesent replacement.

        keith

        April 18, 2010 at 2:41 pm

      • Hi, Ken. Maybe you can have a try of our LED lights. You can see How reliable of LED lights. Our LED bulbs can work >40000 hours. We have 2 warranty time them which may make you guaranteed.

        ledtsl

        February 21, 2011 at 7:00 am

    • I want to hear how bright they are and how many you have replaced after 90 days. That seems to be there lifetime on the earlier models.

      bob

      March 12, 2010 at 11:37 pm

  14. Lights of America has just begun rolling out new Power LED reflector floodlights at Sams Club. They are UL wet listed for both indoor and outdoor use. Color temp is 4100K for a slightly brighter white light quality. Please let me know if you have tried these and your comments.

    Brian Halliwell

    March 9, 2010 at 10:19 pm

    • Tried them love them. Outfitting all my canisters this way.Roughly a 600 lumen product. Its amazing to see this much light coming from a light and no heat on it’s plastic dome. This one could be a game changer if it’s reliable only had them 3 months.

      keith

      April 18, 2010 at 2:45 pm

    • In fact, qualified LED lights are good. So, If you believe in that company, then, you can try. I run busienss with LED lights. If the company deal with the qualified prodcts, LED lights are really GOOD for people, GOOD for the earth.

      ledtsl

      February 21, 2011 at 7:04 am

  15. The led light really is an excellent replacement for the standard 60-watt light bulb. thanks for a great informative post.LED Lighting Bulbs

    Led Lighting Bulbs

    February 27, 2010 at 12:49 pm

    • Yes, I am agree with you. LED lights are really excellent replacement for the traditional bulbs.

      ledtsl

      March 7, 2011 at 8:22 am

  16. I believed LEDs were the future. But the bounds have been crossed. Lights of America…Don’t be a sucker. I’ve purchased a 1.5 watt LED and it was perfect for low light applications. Good for about a month only though. I have had to return to the store 4 times. Each bulb is defective period. Maybe not the bulbs themselves, but the power supply or something. I’m surprised these guys don’t get sued for false advertising. 30,000 hour life does not equal one month of operation, even on Pluto. Don’t give Lights of America one more red cent. And now, this bulb has disappeared from shelves and is not displayed on their website. Take a hint.

    Mark

    February 10, 2010 at 8:46 pm

    • LED lighting is the future, no doubt. But Lights of America Brand is junk. Expected bulbs to last years not hours. Failure rate is over 50%. So stay away from Lights of America or their reincarnate, assuming their product was so bad they will rebrand themselves.

      ken

      February 12, 2010 at 11:35 pm

      • How about Lighting Ever? It’s said that LED light bulbs will save 80%-90% energy comparing with incandescent lights, and last 50,000 hours, 2-3 years warranty.

        Liz

        January 9, 2014 at 9:52 am

  17. A worthless piece of junk, very dim, get even dimmer if they last long enough, I have had them in a three post lamp for less tha one year, replaced 5 bulbs already, last time I replaced if left a 5 month bulb, very dim, a 2 month bulb a little brighter, and the new one bright. Unbelieveable how fast they get dim, and this light is only on 5 hours a day. Lights are totally burned out in less than 3 months. 30,000 hour life span must be for unused bulbs only.
    When I wrote Lights of America they told me my timer was probaly the problem. RIGHT!!

    bob

    February 2, 2010 at 6:57 pm

  18. On January 12th I wrote how my Lights of America LED failed. The same day I emailed Lights of America telling them of my plight as the light was still under warranty …………… this is now a week later and haven’t heard a squeek out of Lights of America.
    I would not recommend this company as their warranty doesn’t seem to apply.

    Linds

    January 19, 2010 at 10:14 am

  19. FRRL,

    Can you do a post about dimmable LEDs please? These are what everyone wants now and we had to wait a long time for LEDs to work with our dimmers, but they’re here now and they’re wonderful lights.
    A lot of these lights are made with components by the North Carolina company, Cree, and they are very reliable and put out great light that’s very energy efficient!

    Here are some dimmable LEDs to check out: http://www.eaglelight.com/category/shop.dimmable_leds/

    My two favorites are:

    this LED that I now use to replace all my old halogen art spot and flood wall-washer lightbulbs. This new LED dimmable comes in natural white and warm white. I love this light!

    http://www.eaglelight.com/product/MR16-GU53W3-CREE-DIM/Dimmable_LED_MR16_35_watt_replacement_bulbconsumes_only_3_watts_of_energy.html

    Dimmable 100-120 Watt replacement extremely bright bulb – this LED is so bright and it’s replacing my old high wattage bulbs that just sucked up my money every month in electric charges. I’m thrilled at how good the light quality is and how cheap they are to use.

    http://www.eaglelight.com/product/PAR38-E27-11W9-DIM/Dimmable_PAR38_100120_watt_incandescent_replacement_bulb.html

    and the Dimmable Par 30 that replaces a 75 watt for only 9 watts. At only 9 watts (at maximum output), these LEDs are saving me a lot of money on my electric bill.

    http://www.eaglelight.com/product/PAR30-E27-9W7/Dimmable_PAR30_Super_Bright_LED_75_Watt_IncandescentHalogen_Bulb_Replacement.html

    Luanne

    January 18, 2010 at 5:51 pm

  20. I am a big fan of LED lighting. Choose a bulb that fits the application (lumens and color) and you will be happy. Unfortunatly many manufacturers and vendors overstate (I’m being kind here) their products specifications.

    I have purchased 45 LED bulbs and have had mixed reliability.
    The good news – some are very reliable. I have five LED bulbs outside that have run dusk to dawn for two years with no problems.
    The bad news – some bulbs are VERY unreliable. VERY high failure rates.
    I purchased 12 of one type LED bulb and 11 out of 12 have failed (8.5W product 47856 from LEDLight.com). To make matters worse they are refusing to replace them.
    Beware of LEDLight.com. This company is selling products that they know are defective. No support for failed LED bulbs. These bulbs are very expensive ($20 – $105) and in some cases last only two or three weeks. They refuse to replace defective bulbs. LEDLight.com is selling known defective products and has bad customer service.
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    greenconsumer

    December 31, 2009 at 11:24 am

    • I have experienced similar problems with LEDlight.com. Several $50-70 bulbs I purchased from them failed after 5 weeks. They will not replace them since their site clearly states no warranty, but it turns out there were several reports of reliability issues with these lightbulbs posted all over the web. I believe they have ripped me off. Stay clear of this company. They also do not post my negative product reviews on their site, so their reviews are effectively useless. Search online and you will find more reports of their poor business practices.

      Dan

      December 2, 2010 at 10:21 pm

  21. I bought 2 Lights of America 2025 from Kroger who recently carries them. I returned 1 because lumens not there to truely be 40 watt equivalent. The one I kept used as nightlight. In 4 months it was dead. Noticing these comments which some date considerably prior to Kroger carrying them, surprises me they have them at all.
    #1. Kroger must have got a $ incentive/discount $
    #2. Or they didn’t didn’t do their homework like me.
    Since they still carry them bet it is #1.

    Steve

    December 23, 2009 at 5:00 am

    • we are chinese factory specialized in led and led products,pls feel free contact us

      andy,yang

      December 30, 2009 at 2:50 pm

    • I purchased the Lights of America 2026LED-65K bulb from Wal-Mart four months ago and was using it as a test base for the lighting of three houses. The bulb failed after 1800 hours ……….. not good as the cost of the bulb was $CAN8.00.

      Linds

      January 12, 2010 at 9:38 pm

  22. I had 3 Lights of America lights fail within the warranty period and filled out the warranty claim as suggested by their website. I got a message back from them saying that they were not going to honor their warranty because they claim the lights are out of warranty. Upon sending them a response pointing out that they were all still under warranty they didn’t respond at all. I had a problem with a Philips light and they sent me a check in a week. I’m never going to buy another Lights of America product and I think they need to take the America out of the name! It’s shameful!

    TVguyy

    December 15, 2009 at 2:55 am

    • Same here. I bought two packs and they were burning out in weeks!

      jack

      December 31, 2009 at 10:09 pm

    • well i dont agree and they are used for out door lanterns and made for socket for security and what ever they last is good as it gets and if you expose them to open air they dont last at all and i have checked them out and have been recomended by security companyies and police services and i think thier best for out door use in indoor use and saver and does save
      more money than your standered energy savinging bulbs so use they wisely take care of them they can help you protect your home about 5% good luck. with the ones you have and if you complian to any compainyies they will not aisit you at all.

      troy schlaht

      January 17, 2010 at 9:25 am

  23. Lights/Bulbs of America is giving LEDs a bad reputation. The quality of these bulbs are horrendous. I guess they are in it to make a quick buck. Shop around, you’ll see a world of difference in quality–not just from our store, but others. I work for http://www.EagleLight.com and we engineer and QC most of our own products. We also have a 90 day no questions asked money back guarantee. So if your purchase is not agreeable then just send the bulb back and get a full refund.

    Ryan

    December 8, 2009 at 9:13 pm

    • What gives LEDs a bad wrap is quality and over statements of there ratings. You company is no different. You state that you have a 50watt incandescent replacement. The specs on your 50Watt LEDs bulbs is 300 Luminance while an incandescent 50watt bulb is 700 luminance . So really you 50watt bulbs replace puts out about the same light as a 30-35 watt bulb. Your 60 watt replacement puts out only 370LM while an incandescent 60 watt bulb is 800 to 950 lums. So really you 60watt bulb is about as bright as a 35 watt to 40 watt bulb. This is why LED lights have the reputation of being dim and undesirable. Currently the best bang for the buck is CFLs.

      Larry

      December 11, 2009 at 7:37 pm

      • Hi Larry, I’m sorry that you feel that way about LEDs and ratings. It is a good observation that you noticed the differences in lumens between CFLs and incandescents. I am by no means attacking you in this next statements, but LEDs and incandescent bulbs cannot be measured by lumens since LEDs are unidirectional–this is a misconception that all light are only compared by lumens. LEDs are so new their is no standardized rating system or regulation on the market yet. We use a combination of tests to determine the comparison of LED-Lumens, Lux reading over a fix distance, etc… This is why we offer a 90 day no questions asked money back guarantee from our store to let the consumer decide. There are lots disadvantages of CFL such as color temperatures cannot be dialed in, the degradation of color over time, and poisonous mercury vapors that pollute our environment.

        Ryan

        December 14, 2009 at 5:19 am

      • I noticed the lumens rating is much lower for LED bulbs as well. I bought a bunch of 3.5 watt LED bulbs rated for 220 lumens, and they look as bright as the 7 watt CFLs I bought rated for 350 lumens, although they’re more directional, so I have to make sure they’re pointed the right way. Therefore the lumens rating is not too meaningful for LEDs. The explanation for this is simple. LEDs emit a limited spectrum which is a combination of red, blue and green. CFLs emit broadband white light which also includes a large part of the infrared spectrum (Incadescents also emit broadband, but most of their energy emitted is direct, conducted heat). When one uses a broadband gallium arsenide sensor photometer to measure the intensity, it will detect the levels of both infrared and visible emission spectra combined for total intensity from a CFL or incandescent, while it will only detect the visible portion from LED’s since LED’s will have very little infrared emitted portion of the spectrum to detect in the first place; hence the visible portion of a 7 watt CFL will have about the same intensity as a 3.5 watt LED to the human eye, but its lumens rating will be almost double that of the LED due to the invisible emitted infrared of the CFL.

        Mike

        March 22, 2010 at 2:42 pm

    • they are not giveing a bad reputaion is pepole like you who just want to bitch about something
      just try them thier made for out door security with lantern type base only! and they do save money and are recomended by securityies and police services in most caeses but good luck because i like them sofar!thier are many differnet types.

      troy schlaht

      January 17, 2010 at 9:30 am

      • Its not that people are complaining about the lights they are reporting on the lights. The Lights of america have an extremely high failure rate. This if not a point where agreement is required When you by 10 LED lights and have all 10 fail it’s a fact not an opinion. The reason these light fail are two fold. 1. the LEDs are driven at their maximum rating. 2. they do not employ a voltage regulator. The circuit that drives the LEDs is a simple full bridge rectifier with a 60hz choke and a few capacitors and a couple of resistors that are used to drop the line voltage, The LEDs themselves are wired in series. So all it take is one power surge and it’s good by LED. I have repaired these lights so I know what I’m talking about here. I also reconfigured the power supply side of the LED bulb and added a SMC voltage regulator and replaced the LEDs with better rated LEDs.

        Larry

        January 17, 2010 at 8:34 pm

  24. In the past 3 months I purchased 21 Lights of America LED lights. Several of the 2025LED and 2026LED-30K and 2026LED 65k bulbs died within 1 week of their 1st use. Now 10 of the 21 lights are dead. The only type of Lights of America bulb which has not died was the 2004LED DL-35-24 LED 4 watt (designed for recessed lighting). Don’t waste your money on Lights of America 2025 or 2026 LED-30K or 65k bulbs!

    dan

    December 8, 2009 at 6:52 am

    • I purchased a lights of America 2025 led bulb it lasted 400 hours not the 30K as claimed on the package. I have just put in a warrenty claim.

      John

      December 16, 2009 at 12:50 am

    • I have also had a high failure rate with the Lights of America 2026LED-30K 1.5Watt LED globe lights. It seems that more than 50% of the bulbs I have bought have burned out. The last one failed this week. It had been burning blue, then it flickered and burned out. I hope there are good brand LED lights out there.

      Kevin

      March 30, 2010 at 1:30 am

  25. Interesting, I had a bulb like this and worked 6 months for me.
    Check this:www.lamp-bulbs.com

    Mike

    November 25, 2009 at 11:00 am

    • Thx Mike, interesting information on [ url=http://www.lamp-bulbs.com ]

      Conan

      November 25, 2009 at 11:04 am

  26. I bought 6 LED light from Light of America 3 months ago, now 3 of them dead, waste money…don’t buy this lights, sent email to customer service but never heard from them.

    Tom

    November 22, 2009 at 12:49 am

  27. I also have purchased many of these bulbs.

    In the article I did not like the way the bulb was used, I have recessed lighting and they do put out close to the same light as a 40 watt directional bulb but with no heat. LEDs are directional and shoud be used appropriatly…

    That being Said – Lights of America bulbs are terrible quality. I don’t know how they can still be in business. I started with 4 of them and in 6 months each of the 4 had been replaced 2 times. Each time a bulb went bad I would buy a new one and return the bad one in the packaging i just recieved. I am slowly upgrading to the GE LED lights (but at $35 each it will take a while). The quality of light is signifigantly better, brighter, and the bulb is much more solid – and appears to be lasting longer. (One year and running strong) The only downside is that they a 10 watts rather than 1.5 but still better than other options. Also have 6 yr warranty. Light output is color comprable to a halogen – very natural light.

    Nick Dell

    November 20, 2009 at 8:34 pm

  28. DON’T buy theese Led bulbs from Lights of America, they are worthless, I boutgh 8 and after 3 months of regular use 4 of them just died. It’s a complete waste of money, use CLF’s instead.Don’t waste your money on these Led bulbs.
    vanDeak

    vanDeak

    November 18, 2009 at 1:05 am

    • I’ve started repairing these lights. I replaced the crappy greenish small LEDs with ultra bright warm white 5MM LEDs. I had to add in a 100 ohm resistor to bring the voltage down. It pulls one watt and is brighter then the original. I plan on trying to do one with 10MM LEDs once I find the time.

      Larry

      November 20, 2009 at 8:04 pm

      • Larry: I disassembled the 2026LED-30k and for 3 failed bulbs, replaced LED’s 6 times with the bluish white LED’s from Quik Brite battery driven closet door assemblies. I keep failing the originals after less than an hour. The 60 VDC or 50 VDC power supply seems fine, it is just the quality of the LED’s used. I’ve given up making repairs after these 6 I made. I took foot candle measurements of one each of the original LED’s and one each of the replacements, with voltage/current curves as I was curious.

        I can separate the light bulb at the mid-line rather than unsolder the wire from the end, drill out the divets, and unscrew the threaded base.

        David Babbitt

        April 11, 2010 at 7:07 pm

  29. I received a recall letter from Costco yesterday about the LED bulbs I purchased at Costco two months ago. From my experience the LED lights was definitely mislabeled about their equivalent watts. For every 40 watts incandescent bulb I need about 3 1.5 watts LED bulbs for similar brightness. But I decided to stick with LED because the electricity rate is progressive. If I continue to use incandescent bulbs half of my electricity bill is at rate $0.37/kwh (not $0.10/kwh as a previous post, check your bill). My bill was down about $30/month since I replaced with the LED bulbs although I am not sure if this is really attributes to the LED bulbs. Well, so far I have not have a single broken LED lights yet, but I don’t really use these light much (about 2 hours/day maximum). Given the fact that for every 1000 hours, I was actually paying $0.37*40=$14.8 compared with $0.10*(3*1.5)=$0.45 for same lightness, I would say if the LED can last for 500 hours then you can save money using it. 500 hours lighting time for me is about 4 months, so it’s half way there and I will keep trying.

    However, I am not to buy additional Light of American LED bulb, until: 1) they tell the truth not lie about the lifespane and the equivalent watts/lums, and 2) they prove that it is indeed 1.5 watts per LED bulb.

    steve

    November 9, 2009 at 6:18 pm

  30. Don’t waste your money on these bulbs from lights of america. I have the receipt, the bulbs are 3 weeks old. Their Response–out of warranty. I have had a 33% failure rate. I figure in another 2 months they will all be burned out. $170.00 for 18 bulbs, Even if you do everything right, including keeping the receipt, they are not responsible for the bulb failure.

    Charles Fitzpatrick

    October 30, 2009 at 3:12 pm

  31. Not to be redundant, but these bulbs are fraudlent. Garbage. Don’t buy them. Why does Sam’s Club still sell them?

    Tim

    October 30, 2009 at 2:39 am

  32. The only Lights of America bulbs that have not burned out for me are the ones that I have not used yet. That really puts me at about 90% failure rate. Cost per year is very high when a $5 bulb last only 6 months.

    Gary K

    October 21, 2009 at 12:49 pm

  33. I puchased 9 packages equaling 27 LOA 1.5 Watt LED bulbs in September 2009. I use them in several of my companys offices and one restroom. We are not interested in high light output, it is the low watts to cut our electric bill that we looked for. These LEDs have virtualy no heat (we are in Florida), give a softlight, and fit in all our fixtures. Problem?? In the past 30 days 6 of these lights have burned out. That is a $30.00 loss. Three times the amount spent on electric had I stayed with CFLs.

    There is a money back guarantee, however, one must have kept the LOA packaging for the Proof of Purchase as well as the receipts. As we are not homemakers clipping coupons here, I guess I will be using the receipts to write these purchases off as a loss.

    GreGory

    October 19, 2009 at 6:02 am

  34. ok cfls have more lumens than an incandescent and use a 1/4 of the wattage. i do belive that you need to do some more research before posting something on cfls. opinions are not facts. incandescents are a thing of the past you only have a few years to get use to them. quit complaining unless you have a better idea or a better product.

    joe

    October 8, 2009 at 5:21 am

  35. I tried these lights for my outside porch. They are on 5 hours each night using a timer. I bought them at Sams Club about 6 months ago and they are burned out already. Not any savings there. I’ll stick with the cheapest I can find.

    JimAZ

    August 30, 2009 at 2:30 pm

    • I purchased 12 LED Lights of America 2025LEDE12-30K 120V-60Hz 1.5W bulbs for $9.99 each at ACE Hardware store in July. They have all burned out except for two! The first one burned out within a month. I thought it was just a defective one but they all burned out within 2 months! I thought LED light bulbs are supposed to last a bit longer for that price. Did not save any $ nor did I help the environment by buying this brand. I’ll remember next time not to buy LED lights from Lights of America. Any recommendations on better brands…I hate to spend the $ with this kind of failure rate.

      MPG

      September 14, 2009 at 12:02 am

  36. I purchased a my first fully dimmable bulb from EagleLight.com and it works beautifully. The light has no turn on time like the other PAR lamps that I purchased in the past. Now I’m looking to buy a colored rope light for my book shelf/desk. Does anyone have a recommendation where I can buy a blue accent light? I’m just changing one lightbulb in my house at a time. LEDs are much better in quality than they were a year ago. I wonder what they have in store for 2009

    Ryan

    August 25, 2009 at 5:44 am

    • Hi Ryan, I liked the LEDs from Eaglelight too. Their color changing bulb with the remote is fantastic and I’ve now bought their colored rope light and it’s even waterprrof so I can use it all sorts of grt places. Love it.

      I’ve been gradually switching to LEDs too. Price keeps coming down and quality goes up. Grt that once you put one in it lasts forever.

      Eaglelight is selling a dimmable LED bulb now that I like – it’s what I was waiting for. don’t remmeber name, but it’s bright and the color of the light is nice too.

      I do NOT recommend LightsofAmerica LEDs – lousy quality!

      Jack

      August 25, 2009 at 4:17 pm

    • Ryan, It is clear that the website you list is yours. Oh, well…what is the internet for if not self promotion veiled as comments from happy consumers. Makes me sad.

      Lewis

      January 14, 2010 at 4:53 pm

      • Lewis, Ryan says he works for the company in his post of December 8th – and he shares helpful information including about his company’s money-back guarantee. This is for everyone in our community’s benefit.

        Luanne

        January 19, 2010 at 3:53 am

  37. I found that lights from LoA are poor quality. I’ve had a 100% failure rate with these bulbs. The LEDs are wired in series and relies on voltage drop across them. The LEDs are over driven and burn out quickly. I’ve been replace the original LEDs with better LEDs as the burn out.

    Larry

    August 25, 2009 at 1:46 am

  38. I tried one of these; I have night lights that are brighter and have lasted longer. The bad thing is, these bulbs are going to give LED lighting a bad name. I have a 3 watt LED MAG flashlight, which proves that a higher wattage LED can put out brilliant white light, and they certainly do last longer than a few months! I think I’ll start buying LED lights when they come in 7 and 10 watt ratings, from any other company than Lights of America.

    PaulQ

    August 5, 2009 at 11:40 am

    • Paul: The reason the 3 watt LED MAG flashlight gives out more light, straight ahead, is the LED’s have plastic lenses at the end which focus them in the same direction you are pointing the flashlight. In the Lights of America LED’s, they send the same amount of light all around, spherically, so that there is much less pointing ahead as the flashlight. That given, the Lights of America LED’s are of poor quality and give out prematurely, or has been my experience after replacing 6 LED’s in 3 of their bulbs. David Babbitt

      David Babbitt

      April 11, 2010 at 7:14 pm

  39. These lights are not worth it. All 6 of mine failed within 3 months.

    Jackson

    August 1, 2009 at 9:14 pm

  40. likewise, I have tried many of the different form factors of LED lights from Lights of America. Failure rate is above 75%. I have already written them on this, offering lights for their analysis.

    Brian

    July 14, 2009 at 9:02 pm

  41. Got my lights at Sams club three months ago and the lights burned out in the last week. Called lights of america they said send them in and they would look at them. CRAP Their going back to Sams club

    ED

    June 5, 2009 at 5:28 pm

  42. Lights of America candle type bulbs from Sam’s started failing within 4 months. While they worked, they were ornemental at best for light output.

    John

    May 19, 2009 at 3:40 am

  43. The candelabra base LED bulbs work very well in the lamp over our table. It takes 5 bulbs, and points them down and at an angle. Three “warms” and two “cools” (or vice versa) give a nice color balance and enough light. The light certainly is more directional. The ‘cool’ variant seems significantly brighter than the ‘warm’ variant. A single ‘cool’ Lights of America LED in a basic “exposed bulb” ceiling fixture combined with a single curly bulb in an enclosed light over the sink make the white-painted bathroom plenty bright, unless you like interrogation-chamber-level lighting. Yes, you do have to think about placement and angle. I nevertheless ordered 30 more of these things from ACE hardware so I can give them to friends. Replace the bulb you sometimes leave on in the front hallway, or the “way up high” bulb in the stairwell, or the 40-watt (or 25 watt) bulbs in a chandelier.

    JFS

    May 6, 2009 at 7:39 pm

  44. 1.5w of LED’s is going to be about 15w incandescent equivalent, just like the experimental posters have found. The energy savings of LED’s is mostly marketing smoke and mirrors. Light output claims are almost always overstated. Lumens output is the real clue how bright a lightbulb will be to humans. Low and behold, the LOA LED bulbs don’t have lumens listed on the package. The Reveal bulbs are rated lower lumens do to the way the light is filtered. The filtering takes out a good chunk of yellow light, where incandescent lights are very good at producing. So you take that away, the light will appear dimmer, but at least the light is less yellow. Normally, a 40w bulb does 500-550 lumems, while Reveals do 340 lumens. So in a way, comparing the LED’s to Reveal’s is an unfair advantage to the LED’s.

    jm

    April 29, 2009 at 3:29 am

  45. I purchased some bulbs from http://www.LEDinsider.com to replace the candelabra’s and replacement globes I bought from Costco and the quality was incomparable. The bulbs from LEDinsider are much brighter and the packaging was much sexier. When I called LEDinsider’s customer service and told them about my Costco bulb problem them guaranteed their product and gave me 10% off of my total purchase. I purchased 3 Pharox bulbs (40watt comparable), 7 Candelabra bulbs, and one PAR 20 bulb, which I am very pleased with. But I am waiting on a brighter globe replacement bulbs for living room which I was told from LEDinsider is coming soon this month. This is my contribution to Earth Day for this year. Hope this helps.

    Ryan

    April 20, 2009 at 5:05 pm

  46. […] review of LED bulbs pans them completely, saying they don’t hold a candle (ha!) to incandescent bulbs. While that’s true, I […]

  47. Wow, I had the same Costco experience and did similar comparisons in my home and found that Bulb of America LEDs are “not so good” I did recently buy a PAR30, Pharox 40 watt comparable and a vivid bulb, which I found all to be great quality lights–and true to their specs. I put the Vivid bulb in my fridge. the PAR30 under my desk lamp and the Pharox in my living room lamp. I’m doing a slow switch over in my whole house. Also, LEDinsider gave me a 10% discount on my second order. Just wanted to say that I’m using delicious apples and I threw out my poisonous fruit. Hope this helps my fellow earth friendly LED users.

    Ryan

    March 30, 2009 at 5:28 am

  48. I’ve purchased another Lights of America LED light set, a four ‘puck’ under the counter fixture (7200LED-BN) and after 3 months two of the four LED pucks went bad. So I guess my concern is the validity of the manufacturers claim that the lights last 30k hours. Based on my experience, I doubt it.

    M. Robb

    March 16, 2009 at 12:51 pm

    • Also bought four of their LED bulbs and 3 died after two months intermittent use. LOA said they would be glad to refund or replace if I return with receipt. Who keeps receipts for light bulbs.

      Robert

      March 29, 2009 at 3:04 am

  49. Comparing LEDs to CFLs is like comparing delicious apples and poisonous fruit. LEDs have no mercury; CFLs have toxic (to planet and people) mercury. I happen to also vastly prefer the light colors and quality and extra savings of LED light over CFL light.

    ledinsider

    February 23, 2009 at 6:20 am

  50. Hello there Robert. I found that I could buy Reveal bulbs at a discounter for half of what I cited. But really, that is not relevant to your point, which is this about energy use and energy cost.

    CFL is in the middle of energy use. For example, lets just stick with Lumens since this normalizes light among the different technologies.

    Lets use gross numbers – Lets just say that a 45W incandescent is 340 lumens. So use 340 Lumens as the test case

    In Incandescent technology 340 lumens uses 45 Watts
    In CFL technology 340 lumens is about 12 Watts
    In LED technoloug 340 lumens is about 6.5 Watts

    The ratios are:
    CFL is 27% the energy cost of incandescent
    LED is 14% the energy cost of incandescent

    So bottom line, theoretically, one could reduce energy cost to 14%-27% of what they currently pay by using a combination of CFL and LED instead of incandescent.

    The technolgy (as of now) is such that the light gets more “harsh” and undesirable as you go down from incansdecent to CFL and LED.

    I suppose one could get used to it. But yes, that would save costs to you – but by how much and what would be the response by the energy company?

    Here is the question I have back. So lets say I and everyone else in a large city has reduced their energy bill to 25% of what it used to be by using CFL/LED

    What happens to the price of energy? My first take on this is that energy costs would go up – perhaps significantly.

    Why? Every energy plant would have fixed and variable costs. If its a coal plant then one of the variable costs would be coal. If customers use less energy then the plant has to buy less coal. So, no impact on the consumer if they use less energy.

    But fixed costs in an energy plant (infrastructure, maintenance, etc) don’t vary with usage. Those costs are the same. Revenue from energy use by customers is allocated to cover these fixed costs. But now, revenue has dropped a total of 75% to the energy company since customers are now all using CFL/LEDs

    In order to cover fixed costs, the energy company would have to raise the price of energy to consumers.

    So, now you are nearly back where you started. Everyone switches to LED and pay 25% of what they used to pay. In response, to cover fixed costs, the energy company raises prices by maybe double what they were just to get revenue back to cover their non-variable costs.

    I’m no expert – that is what it looks like to me. You do something to reduce your costs and the energy company is going to do something back to you to recover revenue they lost to cover fixed costs.

    An extreme example is the US Post office – use less and a stamp cost more. People are using e-mail, e-payments, etc rather then sending letters with stamps. So what happens, the cost of stamps go up since you have reduced revenue to them.

    frrl

    February 21, 2009 at 8:36 pm

    • I think you’re right about energy costs going up. In our city, it was noted that average water consumption dropped because more people conserved. Due to our conservation efforts that the city promoted, the city billed less and collected less revenue thus creating a shortfall of several million dollars. To make up for this financial loss, we will be kicked in the crotch with a 10% increase in out water and sewer rates and no good deed or positive accomplishment shall go unpunished.

      Mike

      March 22, 2010 at 2:48 pm

  51. I read your original posting and if I may quote part of it –
    “Lights of America 40 watt equivalent LED bulb
    $0.50 in equipment cost and $0.45 in energy cost per year = $0.95 cost per year to use.

    The GE Reveal 40 watt incandescent light bulb
    $4.80 in equipment cost and $12 in energy cost per year = $16.80 cost per year to use.”

    I am sitting in my downstairs dining nook. I have 12 Light of America CFL from costco with the enclosed reflector. Based on your electric pricing that could run me 12*$16 a year or $192/year. This ignores my 3 bathrooms, my 4.5 bedrooms, my 2 chandeliers, my hallways, my front/rear entrance door lights, my ceiling fan lights, my basement lights, laundry room, my interior garage lights and my over the garage door lights. I’m not sure I can afford $16/year per light. So I use CFL everywhere which is a dramatic savings. But if I could rotate in new stock and drop my 13 watt cfl to 5 watts I would.
    The next coal plaint in Kansas ( where I live ) might not need to be built if we all did that.

    What kind of decisions would you make on lighting if electricity were 50 cents / kWh ?

    robert

    February 21, 2009 at 2:00 pm

  52. The lights of America website provided a customer service and tech support e-mail address.

    So, what the heck, I wrote to the customer service e-mail address inviting them to answer the central question about the lumen output of the Lights of America LED 40-Watt incandescent replacement for which I wrote a review.

    I got back a letter from the Vice President of Sales and Marketing.
    We did two rounds of e-mail exchanges.
    Here is what I got back from Brian Halliwell – VP Sales and Marketing

    Response #1 ————————————————————————-

    Thank you for your comments regarding our LED light bulbs. Having read the article and feedback in the web link provided, there is no doubt that all that commented are well versed on light sources. As with all light sources, it is where and how the light source is used that determines the effect that is obtained. In the case of our line of Accent Decor and Downlight LED products, our objective is to provide an affordable energy efficient-long life-mercury free alternative to CFL’s, incandescent and halogen bulbs. That said, LED’s as you have observed is not a CFL nor an incandescent light bulb. The use of 5mm LED’s was by choice a means of providing a decor effect that is lacking with CFL’s but desired for many decor applications. This was complimented with the staggering and raised arrangements of the 5mm LED’s which both provided the decorative effect that consumers have responded to plus provided the heat dissipation impact. Color quality was achieved by matching up the right bins to create a 2700K and 6500K color temperature which began with shipments in September. Please keep in mind the globes and flametips use LED’s with a 150 degree angle and the downlights have a 18 degree reflective angle. The built in reflectors within the LED’s directs the light upward in a base down position for the globes and flametips and nearly straight out in the case of the downlight bulbs. Thus, when used with a shade covering the bulb, the majority of light will be cancelled below the shade. The globes and flametips are marketed for decor accent applications without shades and not in table lamps. Most table lamps are used for general purpose lighting. The spiral or twister CFL lamps are currently the most cost effective and best performing energy efficient quality alternatives to the incandescent light bulb in general purpose applications where task are being performed.

    Although the new FTC labeling requirements will soon require all light bulbs including decorative incandescent bulbs to list lumens, they currently do not. The relative lumen measurements of an incandescent will be higher than any of the LED products today based on the angle of light distribution which a photometer uses to formulate photopic lumen measurements. In other words, the incandescent and/or a CFL thru its point source or surface area light source provides more light overall in all angles than any light source with a reflector cutting out a specific portion of angular light. Given the inability to include all explanations regarding the types of LED’s and impact of the technology used, we have used focus group studies and in-store tests to develop the packaging and claims. We do conduct internal and independent laboratory test for all photometric data. New packaging is being developed to roll in that will include additional user information to provide additional direction on the best applications for each product.

    We will be rolling out a new line of power LED light bulbs with 120-180 degree angles with lumen ratings between 560-1300 focused primarily on the track, recessed and floodlight applications. These products will be available in the market by 4th Qtr ’09. We appreciate the time spent on evaluating the products and would welcome additional evaluations with feedback. This is the type of information that we use to improve products as our objective is to provide a product that everyone likes in all applications.

    Please feel free to email directly with any input, questions or complaints

    Thank you again,
    Sincerely, Brian Halliwell
    Vice President Sales and Marketing

    Response #2 ————————————————————————-

    I agree on brand reputation. This is key to any companies survival. Lights of America was the first to introduce a compact fluorescent bulb into the residential retail market place in 1978. The 22W circline with screw base E-26 socket was magnetically ballasted with a halophophate lamp providing 53 CRI. In 1997, LOA introduced the first spiral-twister bulb into the residential market place. Each time we introduce a new technology, we must do our best to accurately reflect customer expectations on the package. Just as with the LED, the responsibility and goal of our company is to provide a positive experience with each product such that the product meets their expectations based on the packaging claims. As we obtain consumer feedback directly and indirectly, we make product and packaging changes to respond to the positive and negative feedback on any given product. Although we are not marketing the Décor Accent globe or flametip LED products as replacements for an A line incandescent, your points are well taken.

    Thank you again for your input and valuable comments.

    Regards
    Brian

    frrl

    February 4, 2009 at 4:17 pm

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  55. Thanks LEDInsider

    I went to your website reference and found a 45 Watt equivalent in LED.
    And then I looked at the box from the GE Reveal 40 watt bulb.

    The 40 Watt GE Reveal is rated 360 Lumens according to the box.
    The citing below (PAR30), is 340 Lumens – that is close.

    It takes 90 LEDs and 6.5 Watts to get 340 lumens on the PAR30 (see below)

    The Ligts of America bulb has 20 LEDs and consumes 1.5 watts and claims 40 watts incandescent replacement. So, LOA has 22% of the LED’s and 23% the power consumption than PAR30. 23% of he light output would be (45 x 23%= ) 10 Watt equivalent.

    There are experiments I did but did not publish.
    I compared the L.O.A bulb with a 15 Watt clear incandescent Candelabra light bulb.
    The Lights of America LED bulb almost matched the 15 Watt canderlatra light ouput but it was less.

    If I use PAR30 as the standard – 90LEDs/6.5W/340Lumens and applied this to the Lights of America LED bulb (20LEDs/1.5w/Unknown-lumens) applying the 22% factor on the LOA claim of 45 Watts I get (45W x 22% =) 9.9 Watts.

    So, the true lumens of the Lights of America LED bulb – claimed to be a 40 Watt Replacement – is really closer to a 10 Watt incandescent bulb. This is my observation in the comparison with the 15 Watt candelabra bulb. And as I already noted, the packaging for LOA does not quote lumens.

    If it really does take 90 LEDs to make 340 Lumens then I would need (90/20=) 4.5 LOA bulbs to get what it claims on the package. At $5 each that is (5x$5=) $25. Which is the cost of the PAR30. The LOA bulb at $5 each is no deal at all. It seems a marketing rouse.

    Maybe Lights of America is saying that all 3 bulbs in the package make 40 Watts equivalent replacement. Check out the packaging image. No where does it say that 40 watts refers to each bulb or does it quote lumens for each bulb.

    Doing the math and by experimental result, each LOA LED bulb is really closer to 10-15 Watt incandescent replacement. Three together, in the package, would be 30-45 Watt incandescent equivalent.

    Lights of America has a customer service e-mail address, so we’ll send off some e-mail on this issue and see what they say – stay tuned!

    http://www.ledinsider.com/ViewProduct/45-watt-PAR30-replacement-light-bulb/64.aspx
    Bulb Shape: PAR30
    General Characteristics
    Wattage: 6.5 watts
    Comparable to a: 45watt incandescent bulb
    Voltage: 110VAC
    Color: Natural White and Warm White
    Recommended Uses: Indoor and Outdoor
    LED Element Type: 90 x LEDs
    Rated LED Life: 40,000 hours

    Photometric Characteristics
    Beam Angle: 15 degrees
    Color Temperature: Natural White: 6200K, Warm White: 3500K
    Initial Lumens: Natural White 340 lumens, Warm White 280 lumens
    http://www.ledinsider.com/ViewProduct/45-watt-PAR30-replacement-light-bulb/64.aspx

    frrl

    February 3, 2009 at 2:08 am

    • Thanks for your post. However … my wife and I have purchased **single** LED bulbs from Lights of America that also made the “40 W equivalent” claim on the package. So I think we can refute the argument that it applies to 3 bulbs combined output.

      Mark Widmer

      May 8, 2010 at 12:58 am

  56. Thanks for this post about LEDs and your experience. I had pretty much the same experience as you did – buying LEDs at my local Costco, not being happy with how different the light was, and how dim. I started to study and learn and try different LEDs and I am very happy with these:

    You’ll notice that I’m sending you to two online LED Superstore sights – LEDinsider and Eaglelight. You can get MUCH better prices there. For instance, that C.Crane VIVID LED you talked about for $19.95 has only 18 LEDs. LEDinsider sells the brighter, better 36 LED for only $9.95! here’s that link: http://www.ledinsider.com/ViewProduct/Vivid-Plus-24-LED-Incandescent-Replacement/5.aspx

    First, I recommend you choose the Pharox LED bulb to replace your 40 watt bulbs. The light comes under a nice, frosted bulb so the light is very warm in color, diffuse, and glows just like the old bulbs we’re used to. Get the Pharox here – http://www.eaglelight.com/product/G25-E27-4W1/LED_light_bulb_replacement_for_standard_40_watt_incandescent_light_bulb__Eaglelightcom.html

    Second, for your brighter lightbulb replacements, go with the PAR20 for 60 watt replacements. It’s a beautiful bulb with a clear glass cover and lots of reflective light and the price is only $27.95 – here is link: http://www.ledinsider.com/ViewProduct/PAR20-White-LED-Flood-Light-9-SMT-110-240-Volt/81.aspx

    or go with the PAR 30 or the PAR 38 for the 75 watt and 100 watt replacements – here is link: http://www.eaglelight.com/category/shop.led_bulbs/

    All the LEDs have money back guarantees so you can’t go wrong trying them

    Good luck!

    ledinsider

    February 2, 2009 at 9:15 pm

    • My experience with the 1.5 W LED bulbs from Lights of America is disappointing. 4 of 9 bulbs have failed within 6 weeks of installation.

      Don

      March 18, 2009 at 12:55 pm

      • Hi, Don. Are you using the LED bulbs at present? Sorry to hear that your experience with the bad quality LED bulb. If possible, I would like to recommend our LED bubls to you. I am sure it won’t let you down! I am Dylan in China, if you would like to try our LED bubls, welcome to get back to me. Eamil: infogd@yahoo.cn

        Dylan

        February 21, 2011 at 4:52 am


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